sure, the service is good. The utility is awful, and the utility is part of the overall service. And currently, the steam client is basically fucking bloatware.
Opinions are always subjective… not sure what you’re getting at.
Here’s my perspective. I’ve been a Linux user longer than I’ve been a Steam user, in fact I only made a Steam account when they came to Linux. In the 12-ish years since they launched on Linux, they have only made my experience playing games on Linux better.
What other company is comparable here? The closest is maybe GOG, but they don’t even support Linux with their client, much less actually invest in the platform. They do make a few older games work on Linux, but that’s about it. Their first party titles don’t even support Linux.
So yeah, I’m willing to overlook a few things. That doesn’t make me a Steam fanboy, and I’d happily move my spending elsewhere if another company stepped up and provided decent Linux support. But the closest we have is GOG basically treating Heroic purchases like affiliate links (not sure what the share is), and that doesn’t instill a ton of confidence, though it does encourage me to occasionally buy from them.
I’m getting at this. All your comments in this thread are invalidating other’s personal experiences. Idk if you are rage baiting or not.
I would overlook too but a window popping at the last second while the game launches, that’s not something my nvidia gpu likes. It’s already irritating that we have to run steam web helper to play games we own, but the breaking point is bugs and crashes because of the background window.
It may not be the same experience for you or the others that down voted me but saying I’m pretending and invalidating my experience is definitely something. This isn’t a niche bug to begin with lol.
All your comments in this thread are invalidating other’s personal experiences.
Well yeah, if I agreed, why post? You provide one perspective, I provide another, and we discuss it. Isn’t that why services like Reddit and Lemmy exist?
down voted me
I didn’t downvote anyone in this thread, I only downvote poor or irrelevant content, not content I disagree with. In fact I agreed with your criticism of Steam here (said it could be slimmer), I just disagreed w/ the claim that it’s “bloatware,” especially given that you provided absolutely zero evidence for that claim, until now. I guess you kind of did at the top of this thread, but I rarely track usernames, especially this deep into a comment chain, so I didn’t associate the above w/ the top comment.
I have a different experience, so I provided that as a counter-example to your claim of it being “bloatware.” Steam provides a ton of value, especially to me who otherwise wouldn’t likely have access to major gaming platforms w/o their investment in Linux. Heroic is a thing largely because of Valve’s investment into Proton/WINE, and game devs considering Linux at all is absolutely a result of Valve’s investment in the platform w/ Steam Machines and then Steam Deck. Valve has a ton of features other launchers don’t, such as: Steam Input, Remote Play, and Steam Family. I use those all the time and they’re absolutely wonderful.
Yes, Steam has bugs, and they’re annoying. But that doesn’t make it “bloatware.”
I agree. I was just defending that other person. Still think it’s ass the the steam client is a second class citizen on Linux. It’s still filled with so many bugs you don’t see on windows
There’s still no light theme, you can’t upload videos, screenshots on your feed take like 20% of the screen with no proper full-screen view (it opens another window after two clicks that you have to close later), likes and comments don’t sync well between the friends feed and the game feed, and this list goes on and on. Steam client is far from fantastic. It’s a half-baked product with inconsistent user experience.
You pirate games because Steam opens a window?
EDIT: Seems you’re starting to resort to cheap attacks on me because you got downvoted
You never owned an nvidia card or are you just shilling for steam?
Gabe Newell said it himself. Piracy isn’t a price issue it’s a service issue. If the steam client is shit. Then we’re going to go pirate
But it’s really not. It has bugs, but the overall service is fantastic.
sure, the service is good. The utility is awful, and the utility is part of the overall service. And currently, the steam client is basically fucking bloatware.
It’s really not though. It could certainly be slimmer, but it does a lot of things way better than its competitors.
Steam fanboy first time hearing subjective opinions.
Opinions are always subjective… not sure what you’re getting at.
Here’s my perspective. I’ve been a Linux user longer than I’ve been a Steam user, in fact I only made a Steam account when they came to Linux. In the 12-ish years since they launched on Linux, they have only made my experience playing games on Linux better.
What other company is comparable here? The closest is maybe GOG, but they don’t even support Linux with their client, much less actually invest in the platform. They do make a few older games work on Linux, but that’s about it. Their first party titles don’t even support Linux.
So yeah, I’m willing to overlook a few things. That doesn’t make me a Steam fanboy, and I’d happily move my spending elsewhere if another company stepped up and provided decent Linux support. But the closest we have is GOG basically treating Heroic purchases like affiliate links (not sure what the share is), and that doesn’t instill a ton of confidence, though it does encourage me to occasionally buy from them.
I’m getting at this. All your comments in this thread are invalidating other’s personal experiences. Idk if you are rage baiting or not.
I would overlook too but a window popping at the last second while the game launches, that’s not something my nvidia gpu likes. It’s already irritating that we have to run steam web helper to play games we own, but the breaking point is bugs and crashes because of the background window.
It may not be the same experience for you or the others that down voted me but saying I’m pretending and invalidating my experience is definitely something. This isn’t a niche bug to begin with lol.
Well yeah, if I agreed, why post? You provide one perspective, I provide another, and we discuss it. Isn’t that why services like Reddit and Lemmy exist?
I didn’t downvote anyone in this thread, I only downvote poor or irrelevant content, not content I disagree with. In fact I agreed with your criticism of Steam here (said it could be slimmer), I just disagreed w/ the claim that it’s “bloatware,” especially given that you provided absolutely zero evidence for that claim, until now. I guess you kind of did at the top of this thread, but I rarely track usernames, especially this deep into a comment chain, so I didn’t associate the above w/ the top comment.
I have a different experience, so I provided that as a counter-example to your claim of it being “bloatware.” Steam provides a ton of value, especially to me who otherwise wouldn’t likely have access to major gaming platforms w/o their investment in Linux. Heroic is a thing largely because of Valve’s investment into Proton/WINE, and game devs considering Linux at all is absolutely a result of Valve’s investment in the platform w/ Steam Machines and then Steam Deck. Valve has a ton of features other launchers don’t, such as: Steam Input, Remote Play, and Steam Family. I use those all the time and they’re absolutely wonderful.
Yes, Steam has bugs, and they’re annoying. But that doesn’t make it “bloatware.”
I agree. I was just defending that other person. Still think it’s ass the the steam client is a second class citizen on Linux. It’s still filled with so many bugs you don’t see on windows
I wouldn’t know since I’ve never used it on Windows, I created my Steam account when they started supporting Linux.
I guess I’m just grateful a major company is making desktop apps and compatibility layers for Linux, so I’m willing to look past a few issues.
There’s still no light theme, you can’t upload videos, screenshots on your feed take like 20% of the screen with no proper full-screen view (it opens another window after two clicks that you have to close later), likes and comments don’t sync well between the friends feed and the game feed, and this list goes on and on. Steam client is far from fantastic. It’s a half-baked product with inconsistent user experience.
Hmm, I guess none of that bothers me:
But I can see how it can be frustrating if you use those features.
I share clean steam files for the ones I buy too. What you gonna do about it?
So you enjoy pirating games. Great! More power to you.
But then let’s not pretend it’s because of the steam UI.
I said it’s one of the reasons. Let’s not speak for each other.
Are you a steam fanboy or something?